How we parents can stop feeling anxious, with author and dad Charlie Hoehn (Podcast Episode 230)

I’m so happy to share

this wonderful conversation with Charlie Hoehn, dad, podcaster, person who helps people publish books, and (most important for our conversation today) author.

Charlie’s book, Play It Away, shares his experience with soul-sucking anxiety, and the simple cure he found.

The thing about this cure is, it’s something humans all do naturally, and it’s as important to us as sleep.

But yet we often grow up and forget how important it is; the lack of this crucial element in Charlie’s life is what caused his terrible anxiety.

If you’re feeling anxious, you are going to love our conversation.

And if you’re not feeling anxious, you’ll still love it because it will help you see the importance of this element in your child’s life.

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Thank you for listening to today’s episode!
Key links and show notes – and THE CUTEST picture of Charlie with his little girl! – at



Links from Today’s Conversation

  1. Click here for today’s guest’s website,, where you can see more on his wonderful book Play It Away.

1a) Click here for the Creative Penn Podcast, where I first heard Charlie share his story about how simple play alleviated his anxiety.

2) Click here for the My Age of Anxiety book.

3) Click here for the We Turned Out Okay episode all about how to know when something’s wrong.

4) Click here for the Wikipedia attachment styles article.

5) Click here for the book Play by Stuart Brown.

6) Click here for the article on “the joyful, illiterate kindergartners of Finland.”

7) Click here for my conversation with Nicole Gardner (who spoke so eloquently about the importance of play and young children.)

8) Click here for the article on the Texas educator who went to Finland.

9) Click here for the amazing book Before Happiness by Shawn Achor.


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