Combating Fear: A Conversation with Mom, Quilter, and Fighter for Justice Cathleen Dinsmore | Podcast Episode 249

Here is Cathleen’s beautiful quilt.

Do you sometimes feel like you are raising your family in mighty frightening times?
So do I.

That’s why, when I learned about the thing of beauty this week’s guest created to combat fear, I knew I had to bring her on the show!

Mom, quilter, poet, and personal friend Cathleen Dinsmore recently created an amazing quilt-and-poem combination. The quilt is breathtaking – and, combined with the poem, fosters conversation around fear, and hope, and justice.

At you can view Cathleen’s amazing quilt, read the beautiful poem,

And here is the poem Cathleen wrote; it accompanies the quilt and brings this whole idea into sharper focus (at least for me).

and prepare to be inspired by the incredible impact one person can have on alleviating fear and inspiring hope.

Go to for:

  • A look at Cathleen’s racial justice quilt, her accompanying poem, and TONS of links that come up in today’s conversation
  • What’s up in the We Turned Out Okay universe, including tons of free resources : )
  • The video of the week: “Helping when Halloween scares your young child”

And thank you so much for listening!


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Key Links:

For more on the Racial Justice Team which Cathleen is a part of, click here Or go to

Today’s guest loves podcasts, and she shares her favorites today:
Click here for the Science Friday Podcast
Click here for the Ground Truth Project Podcast
Click here for The Science of Happiness Podcast

Click here for one of my new favorite podcasts, Positiviteeny!

Click here for Sean Achor’s amazing and very funny TED talk.

Find the Ed X project by clicking here (thanks Jen : )

Click here for the Harry Potter and the Sacred Text episode, “The Mirror of Erised.”
On a related note, click here for the link to James Baldwin’s The Fire Next Time, and Click here for Peggy McIntosh’s handout, Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.

Click here for my conversation with interracial couple Ingrid Alli and Hamilton Graziano.

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