359: Setting kids up for an addiction-free life with NYT best-selling author and Mom Jessica Lahey

Greetings! In today’s conversation my guest, Jessica Lahey, and I discuss some big and weighty issues… This would be a good episode to listen to away from sensitive ears or wearing headphones. (It’s an awesome episode, just awesome for us grown-ups : )

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(I got to meet Jess Lahey in person several years ago, and this picture was taken then : )




I feel an immense sense of gratitude to Jess for coming back on the show (she is a returning champion! Click this link to listen to our first conversation: https://weturnedoutokay.com/054.)

Jess is the author of the new book The Addiction Inoculation (which you can order by clicking here! Squee!) Her ideas on educating kids, fostering a sense of trust while keeping children accountable to themselves, and her fearless examination of her own journey with substance abuse are what my gratitude is based in.

But Jess brings so much more to our conversation. She’s funny, not afraid to laugh at herself, and super supportive of her audience, her family, and fellow writers. Talking with Jess is a learning opportunity about:
– What gaslighting is and how it hurts children
– How we can protect our kids against addiction
– How we can develop the most important habits (spoiler: it’s through play and gamifying)

ALSO! It’s the first in our new segment, Triumphs & Misdemeanors, where we get to hear your voices and either celebrate how you have knocked it out of the park – or commune with you if you share an epic fail…
Listen after my conversation with Jess to hear today’s Triumph, and so you can write down the phone number and contribute your own Triumph, or Misdemeanor!

Click weturnedoutokay.com/359 to view this conversation in video, and for the bazillion links too! Key Links

Click here for Jess’s new book, The Addiction Inoculation – you are going to love it!

Celebrate my birthday with me on Monday evening April 19! I’m hosting a Wisdom/Insight Party, the chance to be in community together, learn from each other and support each other after more than a year in the pandemic. It’s completely free with no strings attached. Just come and enjoy!
Invitations are going out to those of you signed up for my free newsletter, so click this link to sign up: https://weturnedoutokay.com/weekly

Click this link for the masterclass I’m teaching, “What’s the pandemic doing to my child?”https://weturnedoutokay.com/pandemicclass

Click here for Jess’s blog post, “Something Had to Give,” about the alcohol addiction she confronted as she started writing her NYT bestseller, The Gift of Failure

Click here for the book Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker

Click this link for my conversation with Ingrid Ali and Hamilton Graziano, the biracial couple Ben and I struck up a friendship with while we were on our second honeymoon, and they were on their first: https://weturnedoutokay.com/176

Click here for the Being Black at School organization begin by Kelly Wickham Hearst To help black children not feel gaslit

Click here for the show Hot Ones with Sean Evans

Click here for Shane Lopez’s book, Making Hope Happen

Click here for the documentary Follow Through, about a student of Jess’s

Click here for On Being 40 (ish) , and anthology which includes a piece from Jess

Click here for the #AmWriting episode where Jess and cohost KJ brought me onto their show!

Click here for OkayCon 2020, the Free virtual Summit, where I brought you 10 great conversations about getting through the pandemic (recorded in March and April 2020).

Get my first book FREE… It’s called Positive Discipline Ninja Tactics, and parents find it extremely helpful in getting good behavior from their kids!
Click this link: https://weturnedoutokay.com/pdnt

Thank you so much for listening today! You rock!


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